:hopping on the bandwagon:
This triggered off a huge debate between me and my friends. So: is Southeast Asian identity more than a politically defined concept?

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At 08:39 PM 4/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:

Hi there,

This may sound a bit pedantic, but in your NYT article entitled "What's new in Hong Kong", you said "Andy Lau, a Southeast Asian singer, actor and producer."

As any Hong Konger worth his salt (and probably Southeast Asian Chinese) would be able to tell you, Andy Lau's a native Hong Konger, not from Southeast Asia.

cheers
Wei Ting


On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:56:25 +0800
Keith Bradsher wrote:

Thank you very much for your note. We've had some discussion within the NYT as to whether Hong Kong is southeast Asia, and ended up deciding that it was, since it's below the tropic of Cancer. This came up with another article just last week, over whether Hong Kong should be counted with Pusan and Shanghai as a Northeast Asian port. Andy Lau has won a bunch of regional Southeast Asian awards. But you raise a good point that since Andy Lau is juxtaposed with Jackie Chan in the story, it could be construed that Andy Lau is of another nationality. Let me see if I can change it before our international edition, the International Herald Tribune, runs the story, probably in Tuesday's paper.
Many thanks,
Keith


At 12:34 AM 4/26/2004 -0700, you wrote:

Hi Keith,

Thanks for your e-mail. That is most interesting indeed, but as a "Southeast Asian", I find that news most bewildering. Notwithstanding geographical definitions, it seems most sensible to go along with 'publically accepted' boundaries. Further, given that HK is politically 'part of' China now, and I doubt anybody in China considers themselves part of Southeast Asia, wouldn't it make more sense to include it in Northeast, or at least, East Asia?

But I guess you are right in that 'north', 'south' and 'central' vis a vis Asia is rather vague at this point. I would go along with politically defined boundaries (e.g. SE Asia = 10 countries of ASEAN), but I suppose NYT can redefine boundaries too. Globalization ooh yeah.

Wei Ting
P.S. Could you have used a 'homegrown' singer/a 'wildly successful homegrown singer'/'regionally established star' etc etc instead?


On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:09:59 +0800
Keith Bradsher wrote:

Thank you for your note. I just told the IHT to delete the words "Southeast Asian" before the story is reprinted tomorrow.
The convention that Hong Kong is part of southeast Asia predates, to be sure, the handover to China. But I think Hainan island is certainly part of southeast Asia, even though China is not in ASEAN, since Hainan lies mostly south of Hanoi, while parts of North Vietnam lie farther north than Hong Kong.
Keith


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